Range for AWD Cybertruck 200-250 miles after many real world tests

[Gigahorse]

*Edit, bunch of new info out, posts added along with TLDR
TLDR after 75+ days and now over 20,000 miles and dozens of reports on CTs
AWD CT Costs $116k out the door (Beast is about $123k may be more depending on your state taxes etc)
AWD CT has about 203 miles of range (AWD with AS Tires)
AWD CT takes about 1-2 hours to charge 10-80% (v2-v3 supercharger)

Vehicle has a ton of cool features like steer by wire, storage options, modular systems in vault.
But the cost/range/charge I think is pretty far from what a lot of us were expecting.
Tow BIG sample sizes in.
One owner with over 1,300 miles, and another owner pair with over 10,000
Both averaging over those big sample sizes of in the mid/high 500s wh/mile

Hopefully Tesla pushes some BIG software updates and drops this early pricing soon




*Edit added a bunch more reports including one over 1,500 miles and another over 10,000

*Edit Up to 8 or 10 real world range reports. Looking pretty good at slow speeds (250ish), rough on the highway (sub 200).

*Edit with more people posting numbers looks like the average wh/mile is going down a bit which means the real world range average is going up, likely around 215 miles of range which is a great start.
- Added a couple more data sets from posts and new CT owners.
- Highway driving looks like 180 miles of range roughly city/slow driving however is looking pretty good at 220-300

The recent 6,000 mile numbers show the real world avg for a 70/30 highway/city split or big average range to be about 207 miles. AWD CT

All these are just small samples so should be taken with a grain of salt, but this is more info than we have gotten on real world range in the last 4+ years so grateful to have it.

Lots of real world range numbers are coming in via videos getting posted now that some non Tesla employees are getting trucks.
Early report of really bad efficiency like 810 wh/mile were chalked up to speeds over 70MPH, bad driving, etc.
New numbers coming in now are no better at lower speeds.

20 mile test drive (ended up being 21)
Average speed of 63 MPH
Mostly highway driving
689 Wh/mi
Giving the AWD Cybertruck a range of 178.5 miles

*Notes*
2 Passengers
2 Carry on size suitcasestonneau
Tonneau cover closed
Minimal HVAC
Nothing being towed/hauled
Battery was warm as this was a stop on long trip and this was supercharger 3+ on the trip

*Edit*
More #s coming in from road trippers and cross country trippers.
Most Wh/mi are in the high 600s to mid 700s or 181 miles of real world range

More #s posted.
Effectively downhill with a total elevation loss of over 400'
117 mile trip
Temperature of 60-65 f
Battery went from 86% to 10% (76%)
Roughly a 700 wh/mi AKA real world range of 179 miles
Required 55min charge to have enough range to do the next leg of 148 miles with a 10% reserve

*Edit
More #s coming in from a full charging video 14-90% by ourcyberlife
The charging numbers look pretty bad, even at a V3 supercharger and are in line with other early reports.
Basically drive 143mins and then have to charge for 50+

Temperature was about ideal at 73 degrees f

Home charging looks to be about 8-14 hours

*Edit
Another trip showing MUCH better wh/mile numbers. This one posted publicly
@ZachSMickelson
This was an AWD driving a little under 70mph and getting right around 400 wh/mile which is the best we have seen so far and the first time the real world range of this truck looks like it can hit over 300 at 305. Very encouraging.

*Edit
A set of trip numbers from a driver who reportedly was trying to max eco and range, lower speeds, no HVAC other than seat warmer for driver, etc. Got the efficiency way better at 454 Wh/mi which would be about 260 miles of real world range, one of the best we have seen so far.

*Edit
Video comment updated that one of the 1,000+ mile road trips done recently by a new CT owner is going to have a full video posted with multiple charge curves, mileage breakdowns etc. Hopefully getting released in the next couple of days so fingers crossed as this would be a ton of info. *Total trip full numbers coming with a video but said for the trip it was 672 wh/mile which is 183 miles of real world range

*Edit
A few more short trip reports are slowly coming in, looks like in general if the CT is kept under 30MPH or busy city driving conditions the wh/Mile can be as low as the high 300s.
wmorrill3 and others are showing that 300+ is possible under the right conditions which is cause for optimism
Equating to a real world range at those lower speeds of over 300 miles (318) which is much closer to advertised range.

*Edit
The rough average Wh/mile looks to be around 575. With the current reports, which pushes the total range over the 200 mile mark (214) which is a big improvement. Hopefully more and better data will continue to come in.
- All AWD, All Foundation Series, Mix of media reporting YT,X,Reddit,TT
- It currently is winter so cold is having an impact along with minor impact from factory tires.


*Edit
Dirtytesla did a road trip, right at 1,300 miles, spent about 5.2 hours charging if accounting for destination charging.
wh/mile of 483 giving a real world range of 203 miles on 80% of the pack or 254 miles
Trip was 1,306.9 miles with total avg speed of 63mph so slower in general than other trips we have seen

*Edit
First warm weather real world posted test, maybe?. Mix of city and highway, round trip so elevation was a wash, 77 degrees F average speed of 31MPH, only drivers cooled seat used. This puts the mixed range of this AWD FS CT at about 279 of real world range, granted at a low avg speed but keeping the speed low seems to have added 100ish miles of real world range helping support a lot of theories that the high speed (60MPH+ ) is what is delivering those sub 200 mile ranges

*Edit
Pretty large mileage distance on this one. Trip max speed was 55 MPH due to back roads and mostly city driving. Vast majority was back and forth so minimal elevation impact. Air temps between 55-75F, minimal HVAC, mostly using seats. AWD FS CT
Looks like 281 is realistic real world range with mostly city and lower speed driving.

*Edit
Biggest mileage/range/distance report so far. Came from a private group and owner had privacy concerns but shared some info they said could be passed along
AWD CT
2 Drivers
Mix of about 70% highway 30% city
Due to insurance being VERY high and insurance app speed limit has NOT been broken (maybe a couple 5-10MPH over instances for a very short amount of time)
No hauling, towing
Mostly driven in warmer weather for this time of year minimum of about 30, max of about 80, avg of about 70
Almost about 80% supercharging and 20% destination charging
Charging at V2 superchargers pretty slow and tedious if a 60% charge was needed to reach next charger
Charge curve similar to the ourcyberlife curve at V3 superchargers
No V4 superchargers tested yet
Real world range for this almost 6,000 mile sample is about 208 miles of real world range not as much data as we would like but super grateful to get some significant distance #s


Out of spec did basically highway hypermiling keeping it at 70 during the highway phase, until he rant out of juice and had to get towed... This is from 100%-0% so 254 miles or in the real world not getting about 200 miles.......... of real world range.

Ton of videos coming out and data coming in over the last few days.
Jury is pretty much in, truck drives awesome but range and charging are a problem for many.
Also nice to get some data from forum members like susu2142 who has gotten some short trips in but has had some of the more efficient drives, also mentioned slow charging. Looks like a HIGH mileage sample should be coming in over the next day or two.

Out of spec charging data update, charge speeds are really slow unfortunately.
Overall out of spec charge review was "poor" for charging
"This is the worst part of the cybertruck"
"this makes cybertruck a tough sell"

New test loop data in, likely best and most realistic test done yet
72% city 28% highway
Max speed of 70MPH
Average speed of 36MPH
Speed limit during entire drive was not exceeded
Ambient temperature 67-69F
Loop was done to negate wind/elevation
No HVAC Used
One driver, with camera equipment, no additional weight
FS AWD CT with All Season Tires
Truck was Vinyl wrapped
= 223 miles of real world range

FINALLY got some good news on range.
553 miles of commute driving (to and from work for a week)
This 500+ rough range test is almost all out and back trips from the owners home, so elevation and wind impacts are minimized.
All city driving with a max speed of 55 MPH, has not been on the highway since trip reset.
No significant weight hauled in truck, temp range in CA 55-75f

BUT at 453 wh/mile this would put the real world range of this AWD CT with AS tires at 271 miles of real world range. Granted this is just city/town driving but this is one of the first significant mileage out/back style range reports that has the CT significantly over 200 miles of real world range.

GREAT news for people doing in town driving!

Another driver did several days of efficiency maxing to and from work. Total of 399 miles, warmer temps and slower city driving but got all the way up to 273 miles of range when shooting for max safe efficiency!

Vehicle has a ton of cool features like steer by wire, storage options, modular systems in vault.
But the cost/range/charge I think is pretty far from what a lot of us were expecting.

Hopefully Tesla pushes some BIG software updates and drops this early pricing soon

With that wh/mile that is a 280mile range with 100% battery or 224 miles using 80% of the pack, definitely a better one. Pretty good for an avg speed of 37.5mph and mixed driving.
Props to forum member Bkb13 for finding on instagram via htowncyber

Got another range report in, long test of well over 600 miles and 552 wh/mile giving the truck a range of over 200miles at 223 miles of range if the entire battery pack is used, or about..............178 miles of real world range with 80% of the battery pack per charging recommendations from Tesla.
At this point this is one of many.
In super ideal conditions, driving slowly the CT can get well over 250 miles of range, but with over 20,000 miles of real world driver reports in now the CT is getting about 180 miles of real world range.

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Another road trip report, very detailed, info is here:
https://teslascope.com/vehicle/zaimor/gracie/trip/2207
The TLDR is over 600wh/mile for an 80% pack vehicle range of about 155 miles

TLDR after 40+ days and now over 20,000 miles and dozens of reports on CTs
AWD CT Costs $116k out the door (may be more depending on your state taxes etc)
AWD CT has about 203 miles of range (AWD with AS Tires)
AWD CT takes about 1-2 hours to charge (v2-v3 supercharger)

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[Gurule92]

source? Elevation gain? temp? battery pre-conditioned? State of charge when starting? Any useful info?

Also, an average of 63mph doesnt really matter if you spent a bunch of time going very slow through a city and then blasted it on the highway going super fast.

Just based on this info we have no useful information about real world range.

 

[Gigahorse]

source? Elevation gain? temp? battery pre-conditioned? State of charge when starting? Any useful info?

Also, an average of 63mph doesnt really matter if you spent a bunch of time going very slow through a city and then blasted it on the highway going super fast.

Just based on this info we have no useful information about real world range.

Not my truck or video, but was from one of the many road trip vids coming in. Battery warm and 20 mile test was form one super charger to another, believe less than 1,000 total elevation. It is late Dec so I assume sub 50F.

As far as useful info....... I think the below is WAY more than we have gotten for the past 4 years, and is better than the 810 Wh/mi from the other video (which would put CT range at 151.2 miles)

It is not perfect but considering there has been a complete lack of real world range #s for over a month since the release these early real world range numbers are informative, albeit depressing.

Average speed of 63 MPH
Mostly highway driving
689 Wh/mi
Giving the AWD Cybertruck a range of 178.5 miles

*Notes*
2 Passengers
2 Carry on size suitcasestonneau
Tonneau cover closed
Minimal HVAC
Nothing being towed/hauled

 

[dandor]

Can we stop this nonsense please. I could start my own range experiment at the top of a mountain and drive to the bottom. It would then show that Tesla's actually gain energy when driving and have unlimited range. These posts are nothing but FUD with people that have no experience driving EV's and don't understand the difference between a kW and kWh.

 

[Gurule92]

Not my truck or video, but was from one of the many road trip vids coming in. Battery warm and 20 mile test was form one super charger to another, believe less than 1,000 total elevation. It is late Dec so I assume sub 50F.

As far as useful info....... I think the below is WAY more than we have gotten for the past 4 years, and is better than the 810 Wh/mi from the other video (which would put CT range at 151.2 miles)

It is not perfect but considering there has been a complete lack of real world range #s for over a month since the release these early real world range numbers are informative, albeit depressing.

Average speed of 63 MPH
Mostly highway driving
689 Wh/mi
Giving the AWD Cybertruck a range of 178.5 miles

*Notes*
2 Passengers
2 Carry on size suitcasestonneau
Tonneau cover closed
Minimal HVAC
Nothing being towed/hauled

link?

And the 810 wh video the dude said that for the second half of the trip he got about 400wh/mi.

Feels a lot like youre trying to convince yourself or us of something

 

[Gigahorse]

Can we stop this nonsense please. I could start my own range experiment at the top of a mountain and drive to the bottom. It would then show that Tesla's actually gain energy when driving and have unlimited range. These posts are nothing but FUD with people that have no experience driving EV's and don't understand the difference between a kW and kWh.

The info coming out is lacking in detail, but at least it is SOMETHING. No info on real world range for over a month since deliveries, at least we are getting some info instead of wind tunnel guesses. Should have more info coming out as CTs slowly start to get into the hands of people who don't work at Tesla, but after 4 years of wondering we are starting to get SOME real info.

 

[Gigahorse]

link?

And the 810 wh video the dude said that for the second half of the trip he got about 400wh/mi.

Feels a lot like youre trying to convince yourself or us of something

Have been trying to convince myself that 340 miles of range as opposed to 500+ would be ok. Really hoping the numbers coming in from these real world tests are people driving up a mountain pass with a 30mph headwind in -30 degree weather.
Just posting this as it hadn't been covered yet and is fairly new, was on a snap so is no longer up but there are a couple other videos on YT with people saying 440-810 Wh/m so this is in that range unfortunately.

 

[dandor]

The info coming out is lacking in detail, but at least it is SOMETHING. No info on real world range for over a month since deliveries, at least we are getting some info instead of wind tunnel guesses. Should have more info coming out as CTs slowly start to get into the hands of people who don't work at Tesla, but after 4 years of wondering we are starting to get SOME real info.

Have you ever driven an EV? All you are doing here is providing inaccurate information based on a tiny sample. For everyone that drives Tesla's here, we know exactly how far the Cybertruck range will be based on Tesla's exaggerated numbers. We don't need someone that has never driven an EV to tell us what the range will be.

 

[Gurule92]

Have been trying to convince myself that 340 miles of range as opposed to 500+ would be ok. Really hoping the numbers coming in from these real world tests are people driving up a mountain pass with a 30mph headwind in -30 degree weather.
Just posting this as it hadn't been covered yet and is fairly new, was on a snap so is no longer up but there are a couple other videos on YT with people saying 440-810 Wh/m so this is in that range unfortunately.

Well.. as an EV owner, i can tell you that a single trip in one direction is not a way to judge the range of the vehicle. Average speed isnt a good way to understand how it was driven. For example, if there were a lot of 0-60 runs, your average speed would be around 60 but your wh/mi would be crazy. We just dont have enough usable data. Just have to wait till someone doing an actual test gets ahold of it. Like Out of spec.

Too many variables

 

[rudedawg78]

I have to question this very inefficient range. Prior to the sale and production of the Foundation Cybertruck, dozens of Cybertrucks were out in the wild being driven and tested. We were watching the videos of all these trucks being driven around in various conditions. I am sure capturing "real-world" range was a priority before advertising that the truck has a range of 300-340 miles.

If indeed that the Cybertruck only gets less than 200 miles on a full charge, then Tesla is going to have a PR nightmare on their hands. Let's hope that isn't the case. I am not interested in purchasing that bulky and expensive range extender to get the initial advertised range of the Cybertruck.

 

[Michael Dobbs]

source? Elevation gain? temp? battery pre-conditioned? State of charge when starting? Any useful info?

Also, an average of 63mph doesnt really matter if you spent a bunch of time going very slow through a city and then blasted it on the highway going super fast.

Just based on this info we have no useful information about real world range.

 

[Gigahorse]

Have you ever driven an EV? All you are doing here is providing inaccurate information based on a tiny sample. For everyone that drives Tesla's here, we know exactly how far the Cybertruck range will be based on Tesla's exaggerated numbers. We don't need someone that has never driven an EV to tell us what the range will be.

Did a 1,600 mile road trip in a Model 3 and some in town driving in the same vehicle.
What is your estimate of real world range based on the 340 Tesla provided? I saw a lot of guesses that it would be around 300 based on that.
So far it looks like sub 200 from about 5,000 miles of driving a CT (3 people, 3 long road trips, posting Wh/m)

I HOPE this tiny sample we have is not representative, bit it is the ONLY real world info we have so far.

 

[Michael Dobbs]

Other than it’s a hell of a lot less than 340
This will be my forth Tesla and so far none of them have reached anywhere near advertised range.

 

[Gigahorse]

I have to question this very inefficient range. Prior to the sale and production of the Foundation Cybertruck, dozens of Cybertrucks were out in the wild being driven and tested. We were watching the videos of all these trucks being driven around in various conditions. I am sure capturing "real-world" range was a priority before advertising that the truck has a range of 300-340 miles.

If indeed that the Cybertruck only gets less than 200 miles on a full charge, then Tesla is going to have a PR nightmare on their hands. Let's hope that isn't the case. I am not interested in purchasing that bulky and expensive range extender to get the initial advertised range of the Cybertruck.

100% agree, all of the early CT videos released just had % and did not show Wh/m
REALLY hope that this thing gets 300+ in the real world vs sub 200 which is what this small sample is currently showing.

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